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Who has a job now after DACA?

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I always had a job , I just had to give them my social security number now that i have one so now I get pay on checks ! Not cool ! Not cool at all ! The IRS is stealing money right in front of our faces , since i start paying taxes I started to understand how this country works , why Obama made us -legaly-illegal & why is such a big deal for them to Dont let us travel outside the USA without an additional pararole ( which is not not for sure they will let you , to reentry to the USA once you're out )

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I always had a job , I just had to give them my social security number now that i have one so now I get pay on checks ! Not cool ! Not cool at all ! The IRS is stealing money right in front of our faces , since i start paying taxes I started to understand how this country works , why Obama made us -legaly-illegal & why is such a big deal for them to Dont let us travel outside the USA without an additional pararole ( which is not not for sure they will let you , to reentry to the USA once you're out )

Actually... you shouldn't be having a "job" since you are illegal. If you work, you must pay taxes. I swear there is something wrong with you, but I cant be rude in these forums. You pay taxes for security & such. I am sure Mexico, Guatemala or Dominican Republic is very violent, the possibility of jobs in these countries is minimal and life, in those places, is not easy. Here, in the U.S., people pay taxes for the police, the fire department, the schools, and so many more institutions. He is BRILLIANT for letting us work. We feed off of the taxes of the citizens and residents. For all those years you have been living here, working without paying taxes, and so many other aspects of your life, someone else had to. Your kids, if you have any, were being paid by your neighbors to go to school. We're here illegally. Why would they let us immigrate to another country and return **ILLEGALLY**. Advance Parole is a nice piece of paper because it allows those, us who came here without a choice, to immigrate somewhere for a good reason (i.e. relative's health failing, course, work(?) You criticize so many aspects of the country, the laws and policies and even some of the people, and minorities, on your posts. You are always whinning and never satisfied with what you have. If I were you Id stop. I am not going to say "I hope you get rejected!" because that would be horrible, but would like that you have more respect towards others and keep your beliefs in private if it should harm anyone. Also, be grateful you have a chance at becoming "Somewhat" part of society if accepted.

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I always had a job , I just had to give them my social security number now that i have one so now I get pay on checks ! Not cool ! Not cool at all ! The IRS is stealing money right in front of our faces , since i start paying taxes I started to understand how this country works , why Obama made us -legaly-illegal & why is such a big deal for them to Dont let us travel outside the USA without an additional pararole ( which is not not for sure they will let you , to reentry to the USA once you're out )

Actually... you shouldn't be having a "job" since you are illegal. If you work, you must pay taxes. I swear there is something wrong with you, but I cant be rude in these forums. You pay taxes for security & such. I am sure Mexico, Guatemala or Dominican Republic is very violent, the possibility of jobs in these countries is minimal and life, in those places, is not easy. Here, in the U.S., people pay taxes for the police, the fire department, the schools, and so many more institutions. He is BRILLIANT for letting us work. We feed off of the taxes of the citizens and residents. For all those years you have been living here, working without paying taxes, and so many other aspects of your life, someone else had to. Your kids, if you have any, were being paid by your neighbors to go to school. We're here illegally. Why would they let us immigrate to another country and return **ILLEGALLY**. Advance Parole is a nice piece of paper because it allows those, us who came here without a choice, to immigrate somewhere for a good reason (i.e. relative's health failing, course, work(?) You criticize so many aspects of the country, the laws and policies and even some of the people, and minorities, on your posts. You are always whinning and never satisfied with what you have. If I were you Id stop. I am not going to say "I hope you get rejected!" because that would be horrible, but would like that you have more respect towards others and keep your beliefs in private if it should harm anyone. Also, be grateful you have a chance at becoming "Somewhat" part of society if accepted.

Well, I gotta agree with Fabio on this one. I had also noticed that you seem to complain a lot, after having been approved for DACA. But, I really wasnt going to point it out because I dont see you changing your mind. Did you really expect to be approved for DACA and not have the same resposibilities as the citizens of this country? To get a paycheck and have no taxes deducted? Only in your dreams buddy.They(the citizens) are responsible for paying taxes and following the law...we want to be part of this country so we'll do the same. Im just happy I have a job and even if I pay for taxes, it feels good, I feel normal and a part of society. Im sorry that having been approved for DACA has made you soo unhappy. I do recall that upon applying for DACA some of the guidelines on the USCIS website were that our travel outside the country would be limited or not even available. If being approved for DACA makes you soo unhappy, Im sure you can let it expire and not apply again or you can ASAP go to the country you feel would meet all the qualifications. Good luck.

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I always had a job , I just had to give them my social security number now that i have one so now I get pay on checks ! Not cool ! Not cool at all ! The IRS is stealing money right in front of our faces , since i start paying taxes I started to understand how this country works , why Obama made us -legaly-illegal & why is such a big deal for them to Dont let us travel outside the USA without an additional pararole ( which is not not for sure they will let you , to reentry to the USA once you're out )

if you lived in any other country, you would have to obey the rules and laws of that country. living in the US is the same way, whether you are legal or not. those living in the US illegally face the same punishment for breaking laws as everyone else does. given that a few are more harsh then others.

i do agree with others here that you seem to complain more then others. many, if not all (besides you) on this forum are happy about this opportunity that we have been given. if you do not like the opportunity, then why did you apply for DACA? why not just live your life as you did?

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I'm not going to speak for anybody butwhat this country does have is freedom of speech. Why are people attackinng this guy? I don't think what he has to say is harming you or offending you in a way. Why not ask him why feels that way instead? Maybe he knows something we don't know, or maybe we if we ask instead of attack we can better understand each other. This is a public forum, not anybody's fb. And I am not saying I agree or disagree with anyone here...

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i dont think any one is "attacking" him in what he is saying and you are right in terms of everyone has the right to freedom of speech.

however, what I am saying is if he "feels and/or thinks" that having a SSN is so much as a hassle then why even apply for DACA? why not just stay in the same situation he was in and be done with it?

and in terms of advance parole, being "illegal" in the US comes with certain consequences. unfortunately one of those consequences is not being able to leave the US unless given permission to do so. as much as we may not like it, it is what USCIS has set forth.

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That's all his problem whether he is happy or unhappy about DACA, or if he agrees or disagrees about the way things work in this country. The way I see it, yes, he's being attacked. It seems like you're all taking sides and going against him for what he said. I find that uncool especially on a forum. Why. Not learn about each others way of thinking by asking questions and debating. That's whatthese forums and things should be about, if not how can we express what we think if people are suddenly going to attack you or go against you by taking sides.

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I stand by my opinion and dont feel that I am attacking him by expressing myself. Like you mentined we all have the freedom of speech. His previous statements have led me to assume he is unhappy with having been approved for DACA, if so, then Im sure that he can un-DACA himself very easily...

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No, Aled, he is not being attacked. He's being retaliated. There is a big difference between being attacked (...because of his opinions) and retaliated (...for his criticism and unnecessary comments). I have yet to see any relevant posts from him. After having read the post about his opinion on LBG, I was just pissed. Although there are laws, that we should respect, that allow him to type whatever he wishes, it is still inappropriate to type about certain controversial topics (i.e. Anything ranging from Gay rights to Abortions, etc...). Also, I also have the same right as he does, the right to state what I'd like.

"Why. Not learn about each others way of thinking by asking questions and debating."

-Because of his arrogant and ignorant responses in previous posts. If he is not willing to post "nicely"...what makes you think others will?

"That's whatthese forums and things should be about, if not how can we express what we think if people are suddenly going to attack you or go against you by taking sides."

-First, he posted something that wasnt required. He even went on, talking about unecessary topics. This thread wasn't aimed towards whinning about the system, when in reality, dreamer2008 only wanted to ask for experiences. Tony609 has repeated his attitude and displayed his ignorance in other threads, alike the one I continue to cite (LGB & "Adopting"). Second, if he wants a reply to his posts, a reply that is in good light, than he should watch out for the word and tone he uses in posts. No one will give you a good answer is you say "I'm so against about gay couples being able to adopt kids to rise a family !! That's not normal !!!! Not right at all !" because all that quote is asking for is some harsh criticism.

The poster, Tony609, needs to keep his beliefs to himself. If he so wishes to receive responses, in the future, towards questions, chat about life, or even debating a topic, he needs to watch his tone and choice of words.

Peace out, I think I just owned all of you ;)

EDIT#1: If we are going to be criticized for responding honestly to horrible writting, autrocious thoughts and incredibly stupid posts I expect a response post up to par on the quality of this post. I am not even trying on this one if you plan on trying.

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Okay kid, first, I don't need you to teach me about differences about anything. Thank you very much you don't impress me. Second, when I said attacking I was referring to you. Just because you don't like the way he thinks or what he says even if you're against it you don't have the right to insult him. You called him a piece of shit? If you look at others topics in here, people talk about whatever they want randomly. You mad kid, how about you start making your points by being respectful in the first place. An educated person doesn't need to insult people. If someone is ignorant you simply ignore them, you can't change people. You got problems. You're in the wrong forum. I have seen many posts, many things that have been said here. Just because I don't like the way they think it doesn't mean I can go ahead and insult them.

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Okay kid, first, I don't need you to teach me about differences about anything. Thank you very much you don't impress me. Second, when I said attacking I was referring to you. Just because you don't like the way he thinks or what he says even if you're against it you don't the right to insult him. You called him a piece of shit? If you look aat others topics in here, people talk about whatever they want randomly. You mad kid, how about you start making your points by being respectful in the first place. An educated person doesn't need to insult people. You got problems. You're in the wrong forum

When you referred to my being as "kid", that just made your post seem as irrelevant as Tony609's.

Yes, I called him a "piece of shit", that's coming from me and I don't swear that often.

I do not care if my writting impresses people, I would just like that they'd write it in the same format as mine. Include reasons why you think it was innappropriate, including quotes, the reasoning why to even begin the argument, so on and so forth. It was most obvious you were writting about me, since I was the one to begin the arguement and present all the reasons why poster, Tony609, is an incredibly arrogant being.

No. People talk about what they want, in the right places. Keep your absurd beliefs to yourselves if they offend someone. What if we talked about abortions on a thread about illegal immigrants... would that be appropriate? Don't think so. Insulting him? No. I only insulted said poster after another ignorant reply.

Being respectful, ok... this thread I was completely giving constructive posts. On the other thread I derailed into my insidious side once or thrice. Just because I am an educated person, that means I can't "get ghetto" once in a while? Who is to say I can't write something in a way that comes out disrespectful just because I am "educated"?

No I don't have problems. I believe you are mistaking me for the person your defending, Tony609.

Wait...weren't you the one who said I was able to write whatever I pleased a few posts ago... have I changed your mind?

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I will just say that Tony69 is the man for getting you mad. Cheers Tony69 you did it! You made one person mad today

That's why I can't take most posters seriously... you just have nothing relevant to add to posts while I add constructive criticism... I fear that you may never have any good points to retaliate ; /

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i dont know why you guys are making so much drama about everything i say ,anyway it wont happen again , wish you good luck to all of you guys .

btw if you guys have the time , please watch the follow videos , c ya :)

Part 2

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Merged 2 posts made within 2 minutes of each other. Possibly because of links limitations :)

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When you referred to my being as "kid", that just made your post seem as irrelevant as Tony609's.

Yes, I called him a "piece of shit", that's coming from me and I don't swear that often.

I do not care if my writting impresses people, I would just like that they'd write it in the same format as mine. Include reasons why you think it was innappropriate, including quotes, the reasoning why to even begin the argument, so on and so forth. It was most obvious you were writting about me, since I was the one to begin the arguement and present all the reasons why poster, Tony609, is an incredibly arrogant being.

No. People talk about what they want, in the right places. Keep your absurd beliefs to yourselves if they offend someone. What if we talked about abortions on a thread about illegal immigrants... would that be appropriate? Don't think so. Insulting him? No. I only insulted said poster after another ignorant reply.

Being respectful, ok... this thread I was completely giving constructive posts. On the other thread I derailed into my insidious side once or thrice. Just because I am an educated person, that means I can't "get ghetto" once in a while? Who is to say I can't write something in a way that comes out disrespectful just because I am "educated"?

No I don't have problems. I believe you are mistaking me for the person your defending, Tony609.

Wait...weren't you the one who said I was able to write whatever I pleased a few posts ago... have I changed your mind?

Omg what is this bullyOnline 411. This is sick. Agreeing on bullying...Yes it is what is (nodding). Actually people speak for yourself. I have been paying taxes, technically my mother. And lastly TONY NEVER keep your beliefs to yourself. You are a child of God. Express it every way possible. Every demon will attack. That's a fact.

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i dont know why you guys are making so much drama about everything i say ,anyway it wont happen again , wish you good luck to all of you guys .

btw if you guys have the time , please watch the follow videos , c ya :)

Part 2

I been an active fan of Peter Joseph. His Zeitgeist films were groundbreaking and a true eye opener for me. He put Alex Jones in his place when Alex tried to debunk him on his radio show interview.

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